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Topic: Bummer - this is what the public will believe
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detector
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posted 03-26-2009 07:08 PM
  
http://www.wtov9.com/news/19004640/detail.html What gets me most is that one very brief 'opinion' that it 'works better than polygraph' will be turned into fact by the thousands of viewers who see the news piece. Next thing you know, when a person is asked on the street.."What do you know about voice stress analyis?" Well I heard its better than polygraph...and the myth is perpetuated. ------------------
Ralph Hilliard
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sackett
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posted 03-26-2009 08:28 PM
Ralph,it seems we are not privy to efforts (if any) to address this type publicly promoted ignorance of CVSA. Somebody smarter and more articulate than me should be on this, but the forest just seems way too quiet. Personally, I believe we lost a LOT of credibility when the government began "playing" with CVSA overseas and no-one at DACA stopped it, regardless of their purpose or intent. My $.02
Jim
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Buster
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posted 03-26-2009 08:33 PM
A. Very misinformed reporting
B. Very misinformed Sheriff
C. It didn't work in the video, not matter how they spin it
D. Very attractive reporter-- as a consolation IP: Logged |
ebvan
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posted 03-26-2009 09:29 PM
I sent them the link to the CVSA data page and informed them their report was somewhat bogus. They probably won't look at it but it doesn't cost anything to try. http://76.12.216.206/~polygrap/files/vsalinks.pdf IP: Logged |
skipwebb
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posted 03-27-2009 02:30 PM
Jim, Where did you get the idea that DACA did nothing about the folks overseas playing with CVSA? That's simply not true and you know I'm not one to get on here and defend DACA if they got it coming. The DOD put out regulatory guidance saying that no detection of deception device could be used unless it was approved by (at the time) CIFA. The field asked CIFA to give them something else to replace it if they weren't allowed to use voice stress and they developed the "something else" that worked better and quickly. (not as good as polygraph though). What else could they have done?
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sackett
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posted 03-27-2009 03:32 PM
Skip,I wasn't referring to the new screening "thing" they're using in place of polygraph. I was referring to the reported use of CVSA by the spy guys, et al, as reported in past discussions and in the literature presented by the CVSA proponents. If it is not true, and CVSA was not used by anyone in the government, then someone needs to shut down the false advertising and self promotion by the CVSA business sector.
Jim
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skipwebb
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posted 03-29-2009 08:22 AM
Humble hired a retired general as a "consultant" (read that lobbyist) who had connections within the Special Operations community of the Pentagon. He convinced the Special Ops general that the CVSA worked and was easy and quick. They bought some and began using them without regard to the prohibition already in place prohibiting untested and proven detection of deception devices. Once outed, the DOD got in gear and stopped the use. The PCAS was developed to provide something in the way of a screening device for use on foreign personnel only and only as a preliminary screening tool.[This message has been edited by skipwebb (edited 03-29-2009).] IP: Logged |
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